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bbc_hates_me
Posts : 34 Join date : 2012-01-27 Age : 27 Location : In the TARDIS somewhere in deep space
| Subject: Obi-Wan Kenobi Dies. Or does he??? Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:58 am | |
| I first saw "A New Hope" three years ago. When Obi-Wan died, I was like "Oh well. Poor Obi-Wan." But now, I'm not sure if he did die. One day in Sunday School, we were discussing Star Wars before we started the lesson. My Sunday School teacher asked me (knowing I love Star Wars) if I thought Obi-Wan died. I said 'yes' right off the bat. He then countered: "Are you sure? After Obi-Wan "dies", Darth Vader kicks around Obi's cloak. When he does this, there are no rips or tears or anything. There is a theory that Obi-Wan didn't die, but was so intuned with the Force, that he willed himself to disappear." I didn't believe it at all. Then yesterday, I was watching Episode III, and at the end when Obi agrees to take Luke to his family and watch over him, Yoda says, "In your solitude, on Tatooine, training I have for you. An old friend, has unlocked the path to immortality. One who has returned from another world of the Force. Your old master. Qui-Gon." Now I'm not sure what to think. What do you guys think??
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sokafan4ever VIP Member
Posts : 1562 Join date : 2011-02-04 Age : 26 Location : -Working along side Ashley Eckstein in star wars the clone wars!!! (I wish! lol)
| Subject: Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi Dies. Or does he??? Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:42 am | |
| Oh my I never thought of that!!!!! I Sony know...I kindda would like it if he didn't die!!!! | |
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jedigirl1990 VIP Member
Posts : 4842 Join date : 2011-03-19 Age : 33 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi Dies. Or does he??? Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:39 am | |
| Wow that is super interesting i never even thought about that i always taken it for granted that he died and didn't think past that. But then he appears with anakin and yoda in "force ghost form" so i wonder how that would be but very interesting theory. Any theory that keeps obiwan alive is a plus for me | |
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bbc_hates_me
Posts : 34 Join date : 2012-01-27 Age : 27 Location : In the TARDIS somewhere in deep space
| Subject: George Lucas?? Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:29 am | |
| I know most people wouldn't have even noticed this. I tend to over analyze these things so.... yea... But I would love if Obi-Wan never died. I love Obi-Wan! He's amazing! I wonder if George Lucas even knows........... | |
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Pinksaber13
Posts : 1222 Join date : 2011-10-29 Age : 24 Location : Coruscant
| Subject: Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi Dies. Or does he??? Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:22 pm | |
| No. Sorry. Very advanced Force users bodies disappear when they die. And Yoda meat learning how to become a and communicate with Force Ghosts. And Lucas 'not knowing' doesn't even make sense. He created it. | |
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Duchess Satine Kenobi Admin
Posts : 6256 Join date : 2011-01-03 Age : 26 Location : The internet
| Subject: Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi Dies. Or does he??? Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:43 pm | |
| Hey, Pink, be a little more polite please. I think it's very interesting. I think they said something about this in a book somewhere, I'll have to look it up. | |
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Cia Klivian
Posts : 1219 Join date : 2011-10-19 Age : 28 Location : probably somewhere where there's food
| Subject: Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi Dies. Or does he??? Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:22 pm | |
| I've thought about this, but I really have no clue! xD It seems that anything could've happened! | |
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jedigirl1990 VIP Member
Posts : 4842 Join date : 2011-03-19 Age : 33 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi Dies. Or does he??? Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:26 pm | |
| PINK its just a theory or idea of course there is a definite answer that Lucas knows but that doesn't mean we can't think about it or theorize about it. there are alot of things left up to the fans imagination in starwars so its just an opinion and as for Lucas not knowing i think she is referring to him not knowing about the idea some fans came up with how it would be possible for obiwan to live just a theory/opinion its okay to diagree but don't completly discount it either i personally think its interesting i'm not sure if i complelty agree 100% with it but its cool to think about | |
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Pinksaber13
Posts : 1222 Join date : 2011-10-29 Age : 24 Location : Coruscant
| Subject: Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi Dies. Or does he??? Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:28 pm | |
| What was impolite about my comment? And anyways, Brie asked what we thought, so I said what I thought. I just stated the facts. And how would Lucas not know? Pink out. I've always wanted to say that... | |
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sarahthegeek
Posts : 313 Join date : 2011-02-22 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi Dies. Or does he??? Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:39 pm | |
| I gotta agree with Pink. It's pretty obvious that Obi-Wan is killed by Vader; sure we see Vader prodding Kenobi's cloak with his foot but he doesn't really move it around, and the way the cloak fell to the ground just conceals any rips or burns from the lightsaber.
What Yoda says at the end of RotS means that Qui-Gon figured out how to become a part of the living Force after death and is able to appear as a Force ghost, can still interact with the living, etc. But it's pretty definitive that Obi-Wan dies in ANH; Lucas has often talked about his reasoning for killing off Obi-Wan at that point in the story. | |
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Pinksaber13
Posts : 1222 Join date : 2011-10-29 Age : 24 Location : Coruscant
| Subject: Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi Dies. Or does he??? Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:47 pm | |
| - sarahthegeek wrote:
- I gotta agree with Pink. It's pretty obvious that Obi-Wan is killed by Vader; sure we see Vader prodding Kenobi's cloak with his foot but he doesn't really move it around, and the way the cloak fell to the ground just conceals any rips or burns from the lightsaber.
What Yoda says at the end of RotS means that Qui-Gon figured out how to become a part of the living Force after death and is able to appear as a Force ghost, can still interact with the living, etc. But it's pretty definitive that Obi-Wan dies in ANH; Lucas has often talked about his reasoning for killing off Obi-Wan at that point in the story. Thank you XD | |
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Winter Celchu27
Posts : 539 Join date : 2010-12-30 Location : A shop on Coruscant!
| Subject: Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi Dies. Or does he??? Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:54 pm | |
| I don't know.... I never even thought about that. But I think he really does die. | |
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shaak ti VIP Member
Posts : 1517 Join date : 2011-03-12 Age : 26
| Subject: Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi Dies. Or does he??? Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:14 pm | |
| I'm pretty sure he dies, but thats a cool theory! | |
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bbc_hates_me
Posts : 34 Join date : 2012-01-27 Age : 27 Location : In the TARDIS somewhere in deep space
| Subject: Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi Dies. Or does he??? Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:29 pm | |
| - Pinksaber13 wrote:
- No. Sorry. Very advanced Force users bodies disappear when they die. And Yoda meat learning how to become a and communicate with Force Ghosts.
And Lucas 'not knowing' doesn't even make sense. He created it. Hey Pink! I don't think the comment was rude. After all, I did ask for your opinion... Anyways, on your comment that Lucas 'not knowing' doesn't make sense, I love writing fiction. It is one of my favorite pastimes. Sometimes, I write things that I don't even know about. | |
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sarahthegeek
Posts : 313 Join date : 2011-02-22 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi Dies. Or does he??? Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:14 pm | |
| Well yeah, but Obi-Wan's death is a pretty big plot point. Of course Lucas knows what he meant with that scene; he meant to kill Obi-Wan Kenobi. | |
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Ashley Amidala
Posts : 448 Join date : 2011-09-26 Location : Asgard. And Paris. And Space.
| Subject: Re: Obi-Wan Kenobi Dies. Or does he??? Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:53 pm | |
| *happy dance*
I'm all for believing he lives still!!
Yet, how could the three dead greats be explained at the end of ROTJ? | |
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