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futurejedigirl0202
Posts : 750 Join date : 2011-04-05 Age : 25 Location : Naboo
| Subject: Would Padme still have died? Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:48 am | |
| So we know Anakin killed Padme. But would she still of died in childbirth if he hadn't? Because Anakin's dreams are different than the actual event. I don't know if I'm missing something really big here but can anyone explain?
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Starwarsartist VIP Member
Posts : 3414 Join date : 2011-06-28 Age : 26 Location : Somewhere in the outer rim...
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:01 pm | |
| I really don't know. I think that Anakin brought on her death himself, both in the fact that he broke her heart and injured her physically. I don't think she would have died if Anakin had been there and hadn't turned. Does that make sense? | |
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QueenKarina
Posts : 880 Join date : 2010-12-30 Age : 27 Location : chillin in the Jedi Temple
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:12 pm | |
| Yeah if Anakin hadn't done that I don't think she would have died. -Rachel (Queen Karina) | |
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Wolffe's Chick VIP Member
Posts : 2496 Join date : 2011-05-26 Age : 28 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:20 pm | |
| I agree. I think when he choked her and threw her down, that was the turning point. Plus, she was under a lot of stress right before child birth. | |
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allishmalli Moderators
Posts : 3605 Join date : 2011-01-02 Age : 28 Location : Here on TLH... kinda obvious, don't ya think?
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:37 pm | |
| Nah! I don't think she would have died. The only reason she did was because Anakin turned to the Dark Side, choked her, and she lost the will to live. Although, I have a pretty good theory on why everything in SW happens the way it happens. The people who were on the other forum before TLF existed already know my theory, so I won't say it unless you ask. I will warn you, it is long, so only request it if you want a rant. | |
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Starwarsartist VIP Member
Posts : 3414 Join date : 2011-06-28 Age : 26 Location : Somewhere in the outer rim...
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:45 pm | |
| *Requests theory* | |
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JediKnightGirl VIP Member
Posts : 2371 Join date : 2011-01-11 Location : Flying my X-Wing from Asgard to the Grid
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:48 pm | |
| *raises hand* | |
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QueenKarina
Posts : 880 Join date : 2010-12-30 Age : 27 Location : chillin in the Jedi Temple
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:52 pm | |
| *raises hand VERY high* XDD -Rachel (Queen Karina) | |
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Wolffe's Chick VIP Member
Posts : 2496 Join date : 2011-05-26 Age : 28 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:11 pm | |
| Let's hear it Allishmalli!!! Go for the rant! | |
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Jedi~Chick Admin
Posts : 6547 Join date : 2010-12-28 Age : 27 Location : Hanging with my fellow X-Wing Pilots in a Rebel Alliance Briefing...
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:26 pm | |
| I do believe I remember that rant.....XD But....*raises hand* I don't think Padme would have died if it weren't for Anakin breaking her heart. She died of a broken heart (which is a REAL thing!!!!) and also probably was overly exhausted after giving birth to the twins and getting choked. | |
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Duchess Satine Kenobi Admin
Posts : 6256 Join date : 2011-01-03 Age : 26 Location : The internet
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:22 pm | |
| *raises hand* I don't think Padme would have died either if it hadn't been for Darth Vader. | |
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futurejedigirl0202
Posts : 750 Join date : 2011-04-05 Age : 25 Location : Naboo
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:44 am | |
| *Raises both hands* Okay, thanks. It really bothered me XD
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allishmalli Moderators
Posts : 3605 Join date : 2011-01-02 Age : 28 Location : Here on TLH... kinda obvious, don't ya think?
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:51 pm | |
| Alright, alright. I'll tell y'all. Palpatine is behind EVERYTHING!!! He made sure that Anakin was born into slavery, so the Republic wouldn't get him. Then when he heard that Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan went to Tatooine, He sent Darth Maul to kill them, because he was afraid that they would discover Anakin. When he found out that Anakin was going to be trained, he decided to make it work him. He formed a "friendship" with Anakin, telling him things that he wanted to hear so that Anakin would trust Palpatine, possibly even more than Obi-Wan. Palpatine somehow found out that Anakin was in love with Padmé, so he decided to plan to assassinate her Anakin would be upset. When she lived, he suggested to her that she should guarded by Obi-Wan and Anakin so it wouldn't seem like she was being guarded, but really it was so Anakin's feelings for Padmé would re-ignite and he'd form an attachment to her and either be killed trying to protect Padmé or go into rage if she was killed. Also, he probably paid the Tusken Raiders to kidnap and torture Shmi so Anakin would go find her and be upset when he found out that the Tusken Raiders killed her. Palpatine controlled both sides of the war, obviously. When it was the right time, he MADE Anakin have bad dreams about Padmé, so that he'd come to him for advice. Palpatine told him the Darth Plagueis tale, making Anakin want to find out how he could save Padmé. When Anakin choked Padmé, Palpatine probably sensed that something happened so when Darth Vader asked about Padmé, he lied and said that Anakin had killed her. Which he sort of did, just not the way Anakin thought he did. So, as you can see, Palpatine was behind it all! That's my theory! | |
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Starwarsartist VIP Member
Posts : 3414 Join date : 2011-06-28 Age : 26 Location : Somewhere in the outer rim...
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:54 pm | |
| And I think it's a good one! The idea that Palpatine was behind his mother's death is actually a great. Do you think Palpatine sent Anakin the dreams of his mother? | |
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allishmalli Moderators
Posts : 3605 Join date : 2011-01-02 Age : 28 Location : Here on TLH... kinda obvious, don't ya think?
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:17 pm | |
| Well I think that maybe he did, but probably not. Anakin is very strong in the force and probably felt that his mom was in pain. I do think that Palpatine had to send dreams about Padmé because it wasn't currently going on and Palpatine knew that Anakin would try to prevent it. | |
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Wolffe's Chick VIP Member
Posts : 2496 Join date : 2011-05-26 Age : 28 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:45 pm | |
| Ooooohhhhh, this is getting deep. I've never thought of it like that. | |
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Jedi~Chick Admin
Posts : 6547 Join date : 2010-12-28 Age : 27 Location : Hanging with my fellow X-Wing Pilots in a Rebel Alliance Briefing...
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:01 pm | |
| I HAVE heard this theory before!!!! And I totally agree. I believe Palpatine was behind it ALL. XD Great theories Allishmalli, you're very good at these sorts of things. LOL! | |
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JediKnightGirl VIP Member
Posts : 2371 Join date : 2011-01-11 Location : Flying my X-Wing from Asgard to the Grid
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:15 pm | |
| OK, this may mutate into a rant. I've never really liked Padme. Yeah, just hear me out. 3 reasons: She got soft. She was pretty spunky in the first 2 movies; but she seemed to fade away in the time she needed to be the strongest, Anakin aside. The whole Republic was falling apart and it seemed she spent more time grieving and less time standing up. I know she tried a little, but I think she just kinda gave up after Anakin came into the equation. She GAVE up on her life. Getting her heartbroken by her husband and true love is horrible; in that sense I feel for her. However, she gave birth to 2 beautiful children: most parent's reason for joy and LIFE. But she just gave up, and let go of all hope. Yes, the OT wouldn't have been nearly as awesome had she survived, but I would have rather Anakin directly killed her than just given up. This last reason probably is just true for me, but I really don't see her as the strong female character as the other females. She's not really a wimp, but I just don't see her as the same as others like Ahsoka, Leia, and Mara Jade. Being said, I don't hate her or anything like that, but she just isn't a favorite of mine.
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Starwarsartist VIP Member
Posts : 3414 Join date : 2011-06-28 Age : 26 Location : Somewhere in the outer rim...
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:21 pm | |
| Hmmm. Interesting.
I don't think she really gave up, but she didn't fight either. Is this the same thing? I don't think so.
I haven't watched the third movie in a while, but wasn't she fighting as hard as she could to get Palpatine to give up his powers? And don't forget, she was pregnant.
I kinda like her, and I kinda don't. | |
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Wolffe's Chick VIP Member
Posts : 2496 Join date : 2011-05-26 Age : 28 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:25 pm | |
| - JediKnightGrl wrote:
- OK, the may mutate into a rant. I've never really liked Padme. Yeah, just hear me out. 3 reasons:
She got soft. She was pretty spunky in the first 2 movies; but she seemed to fade away in the time she needed to be the strongest, Anakin aside. The whole Republic was falling apart and it seemed she spent more time grieving and less time standing up. I know she tried a little, but I think she just kinda gave up after Anakin came into the equation. She GAVE up on her life. Getting her heartbroken by her husband and true love is horrible; in that sense I feel for her. However, she gave birth to 2 beautiful children: most parent's reason for joy and LIFE. But she just gave up, and let go of all hope. Yes, the OT wouldn't have been nearly as awesome had she survived, but I would have rather Anakin directly killed her than just given up.
This last reason probably is just true for me, but I really don't see her as the strong female character as the other females. She's not really a wimp, but I just don't see her as the same as others like Ahsoka, Leia, and Mara Jade.
Being said, I don't hate her or anything like that, but she just isn't a favorite of mine. I totally agree!! | |
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allishmalli Moderators
Posts : 3605 Join date : 2011-01-02 Age : 28 Location : Here on TLH... kinda obvious, don't ya think?
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:22 pm | |
| I actually agree with you, but I still like her anyway. Even if she did get "soft". | |
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futurejedigirl0202
Posts : 750 Join date : 2011-04-05 Age : 25 Location : Naboo
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:10 pm | |
| Cool theory! It actually makes a lot of sense! | |
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Duchess Satine Kenobi Admin
Posts : 6256 Join date : 2011-01-03 Age : 26 Location : The internet
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:38 pm | |
| I agree with everything you said JKG!!! She was cool in the first movie or so, but after a while she just got kind of whiny. | |
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futurejedigirl0202
Posts : 750 Join date : 2011-04-05 Age : 25 Location : Naboo
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:50 am | |
| True, Padme got a little wimpy later on. I liked her in the first movie. | |
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Aay'liah
Posts : 1297 Join date : 2011-08-21 Age : 27 Location : The Grand Unknown
| Subject: Re: Would Padme still have died? Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:42 am | |
| I concur to what you say, JKG, but you have to remember, in the third movie, she was pregnant. Pregnancy does weird things to women, especially under stress. Though I agree that she kind of gave up on her life. | |
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